Creating God

Define the God you believe in, and tell me why you believe.

For any debate or discussion between Atheist and Christian, this is a good idea.  It assures that both parties are talking about the same thing.

At no other time is it a good idea to just let each person define their deity.  If God exists, He/She/It/They are far too vast and varied for a mere human mind to comprehend.  This is why Christians are often disappointed when Atheists fail to believe, because the claims are impossible, or internally contradictory.  There just does not seem to be any way to present a coherent definition of GOD.”

The first claim that many Christians make about their definition of God, is that (it’s almost always a) He is the Creator of all things.  Even if there were some evidence that was true, it still doesn’t make the Creator, a “God”.  Even if some entity caused it, it may have been accidental, and unintentional – or it may have been intentional, but irrelevant, like a young boy with an ant farm.

No way does the mere claim of a Creator, turn it into a God.  A God wants something – both for us and from us.  He would want to give us life, and a universe to exist in.  He wants worship, obedience, belief and faith.  He wants to give us morals, and rules to live by.  A Creator wants and needs none of that.

In my opinion, Deism is the most useless, contradictory belief position.  A Deist believes in a Creator, but does not believe in a personal God.  A Deist believes in “The Watchmaker God,” an entity of some sort which produced our Universe, wound it up like a watch, with all its physical rules, and then just sits back and watches it – like the lad above, with the ant-farm, an uninvolved observer of His creation, whether unwilling or unable to affect us or our situations.

An invisible God is indistinguishable from a non-existent God.  A ”Creator which performs no miracles, who answers no prayers, who gives nothing to us, and asks nothing of us, quickly becomes indistinguishable from that non-existent God.  Most Deists don’t believe in Heaven or Hell, salvation, or any sort of life after death.  I’ve got a pet rock from the ’80s that can do that much.  Any Theist who wants non-believers to accept claims of his particular pet Deity, had better be ready to offer more than a ‘Creator.’  He’ll need evidence of some sort, of supernatural involvement in the natural world.

I don’t know even how the supernatural could be viewed, recorded or measured, ‘naturally.’  Christians often ask Atheists what sort of evidence would convince them of the existence of a God.  The short answer??  Empirical!  The conversation will not even begin until they can present a verifiable, repeatable occurrence that can not be shown to have a natural explanation.

20 thoughts on “Creating God

  1. makagutu says:

    To create god, a weak imagination is all you need

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  2. Newbloggycat says:

    Hmmm…I’m confused now. 😅 The Christians would say what about all those unusual sightings of holy figures. In 2012, the image of Virgin Mary appeared at a private hospital here. https://cj.my/79547/image-of-virgin-mary-at-subang-jaya-hospital/
    How do you explain that? 🧐😅

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  3. grogalot says:

    The human brain can imagine anything. Human imagination can imagine things that don’t exist. Children are taught to believe in imaginary creatures. We think nothing about where these creatures exist. Everyone believes in heaven, right? Heaven is an imaginary realm created by a child’s mind when they learn of their father in heaven. Just imagine! There is no heaven. Cheers. GROG

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    • Archon's Den says:

      That’s when Christians’ imagination dies – when you ask them to imagine, even for a second, that there is no God, no Heaven or Hell, no afterlife, no miracles, no answered prayers.
      It’s all a big pile of insecurity, desperation and ego. 🙂

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  4. Who says it has to be just one god? Hell, who says it has to be just one pantheon? Maybe ALL gods exist – Thor, Jesus, Hathor, the whole bunch. We don’t know.

    You ask me to define the god I believe in. Currently I am of the Egyptian faith (I’d say Kemetic but no one knows what that means except Kemetics 🙂 ). I had an experience with Sekhmet (and I mean “Saul on the road to Damascus” level experience) – it was unmistakable, and yet unrepeatable and invisible. Does that mean it didn’t happen, that She doesn’t exist? You say yes, I say no.

    I used to be a Catholic, the religion I was raised in; then I spent some time slowly becoming an atheist, and was that for 20 years; and then in 2006, I had a different experience with Aset (Isis, and NO, NOT THE ISLAMIC STATE), Hathor and Nephthys, and that converted me to the Egyptian faith. I had experiences as a Catholic that seemed real, although not on the level as with the Sekhmet one, which is why I say maybe all gods exist. And yes, maybe none of them do. I’m reminded of the bumper sticker I saw years ago: “Militant Agnostic: I don’t know and you don’t either.” 🙂

    Just to add more fat to the fire. 🙂

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  5. Daniel Digby says:

    God doesn’t need to have created anything. That’s because God is all that is Great and Good, And you’re right. God is very demanding; lettuce must thank It for our food (which rhymes with good).

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  6. Archon's Den says:

    I don’t thank God for lettuce – unless it’s wrapped around a juicy burger. 😉 🙂

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  7. Whether you believe in God or not ain’t the problem. Does God believe in YOU? (Or the alternate from the Chronicles of Riddick – :I absolutely believe in God. And I absolutely hate the f**ker.” His words, not mine! 😉 ) As for me, until God proves that I exist, I refuse to believe that I exist. Wait …. I mean, I reuse to believe that you exist. Wait, I know you exist, because I met you … unless we’re BOTH figments of somebody else’s imagination……

    I’m gonna go bang my head against a wall until I see God. Shouldn’t take long….. 😀

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  8. Arnold says:

    My God is Jesus Christ–via his resurrection he gave me his Spirit. He gives my senses someone to see and hear and touch. Something to grasp. He told his disciples, ‘You believe in God, believe in me too.. if you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father.’

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