Portions of my June Anti-Religion rant were downloaded and republished by a different Christian apologist, with many of the same, silly, baseless arguments.
Woke Atheist insists, “We Just Have To Accept”
Archon’s Den replied:
Personal feelings, personal testimony, personal experience, intuition, etc. do NOT count as evidence, when applied to something outside yourself. They are, however, the only valid way to know what is happening in anyone’s mind. Lia could state that she is a Cincinnati Reds fan, a non-smoker, a vegetarian, and likes heavy metal music, and you have to accept that. And if she says that she feels more like a girl than a guy despite the plumbing, just as she feels more like voting for Biden than Trump – that’s an objective proof. You have to accept it, even if you are a dyed-in-the-wool Republican. She is, and will remain, the best judge of what she thinks, feels, and believes. She identifies as a female personality, trapped in a male body.
Did you notice that,” if she says that she feels more like a girl than a guy despite the plumbing, ….that’s an objective proof. You have to accept it.”
No, it’s not an objective proof and I don’t “have to accept it.” There are two common traits among human beings – deception and delusion. It is NOT uncommon for people to lie nor is it uncommon for people to be deluded (have beliefs that don’t match reality). Therefore, it is possible that Thomas is lying, and if that is not the case, it is possible that Thomas is deluded. Archon’s Den would have us abandon these possibilities, as if they could never ever be true, and instead embrace Thomas’s claims on blind faith.
Let me demonstrate the complete absurdity of Archon’s Den’s position with a concrete example.
Consider this person: and presents a video of a young female who thinks that she is a bird, and uses ey/em/eir pronouns because birds don’t inherently have a gender. (Spoiler alert – Yes they do!) And no one has the right to expect me to believe she is a bird. Yet according to Archon’s logic, “You have to accept it.”
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Woke party!
I detest the whole woke movement. I feel that it is an exaggerated extension of PC (Politically Correct.) It is the chance for many people, who don’t know what they are talking about, and many of whom don’t have a dog in the fight, to make unsupported claims, and demand that others accept them – sort of like what you’re doing now. To pretend that you know what I think and believe, and claim that I am a “Woke” Atheist shows that you are either deluded or lying.
What I don’t understand, is the fervent need to finely split Theological hairs on this subject, unless it’s to cover a religious bald spot in your argument. It has nothing to do with the existence of God. It’s just a bunch of self-righteous Christian bullies, again insisting on what others must say, do, or think. The last time that became organized, it was called The Inquisition, and did not end well.
You must have been in a real hurry to jog past the ‘Judge not, lest ye be judged’ spot, which really has nothing to do with you.
As for your bird-brained little Gotcha….
So it’s rather amusing to realize that while woke atheist Archon insists there is “no evidence for god,” he/she believes that girl in the video is a bird (assuming Archon is intellectually sincere and practicing what he/she preaches).
Despite claiming that they read my post, it is apparent that they are still incapable, or unwilling, to understand and accept the differences between ‘Internal’ and ‘External – between ‘Objective’ and ‘Subjective,’ producing another instance of Deluded or Lying.
Lia never made the external claim that she WAS a woman, only that her soul (for those who believe in such foolishness) felt like a woman’s, in a male body. Little Miss ey/em/eir claims that she IS a bird. I am quite willing to be intellectually sincere, only if she flies up into a tree, builds a nest, and lays an egg. That’s what I practice, but I never preach.
BTW: On neither of these websites did I make the claim that there is “no evidence for God.” I have, in the past, said that there is “not sufficiently convincing evidence”, but that’s a grey horse of a different color. 😳
As a matter of fact, on neither of these websites did I state that I am an Atheist. While not incorrect, that claim is unfounded. All I did was question the linguistic and logic misusages. I could have been an outraged Woke Christian. This is divisive tribalism at its worst. “If ya ain’t fer us, yer agin us!” 😈