Christian Apologists seem eager to prove the existence of God. Or have the existence proved, since many of them spend more time and energy trying to prove nonbelievers wrong, than in proving their own claims right.
How could it be done??! In my humble opinion, it can’t! There is no way to prove an immaterial, supernatural being, in a naturalistic, material world. It’s a fools’ game, though there’s no shortage of fools trying.
In the mid/late 1800s, there was a Philosopher – a debater, who never lost a debate. There was another, lesser debater who he had taken a particular dislike to. He had challenged him many times, but was never accepted. Finally, he offered to take a position contrary to his oft-stated belief.
He was tall, handsome, well-dressed, intelligent, well-educated, had a broad vocabulary and a powerful voice. He emoted. He projected his voice. He waved his arms and hands – and he won the debate! So, philosophy, logic, and debate are useless! 😳
I have seen two different Mathematics Professors, using two different sets of algebraic equations, PROVE that 1 = 2, in clear violation of observed reality. So, mathematics, that pure, sweet language of the cosmos, is useless. 😳
I once read a paper from two Aeronautical Engineers. They had studied bees, and found that the bees’ wing surface area, compared to their weight, was not large enough – they could not fly. The bees of course, continued to do so.
With the advent of high-speed cameras, something called rectilinear flexion was discovered. Bees don’t just flap their wings. They cup the air the way that swimmers’ hands cup the water, for extra propulsion and lift.
When the top speed in the quarter-mile drag races was approaching 175 MPH, two Automotive Engineers calculated the top limit. One pound of weight on the drive wheels, equalled one pound of forward thrust. No-one could exceed 177 MPH.
When the speeds went to 179 and 180, they blamed technological malfunction – the timing lights were misaligned or the primitive electronic speed calculator malfunctioned. When speeds approached 185, they finally climbed off their slide-rules and discovered directional friction.
So, education, intelligence and Engineering are useless, unless you can be sure that you have all the relevant information. 😦
As a wordsmith, I have noticed that many of the problems, either accidentally, or intentionally, come from language misusage and misunderstanding. They make claims that sound like they mean one thing, while their definition and belief is something quite different.
There can be no meaningful discussion until all the terms are coherent, clearly defined, and agreed on. This is not likely to happen in an endeavor where obfuscation is a growth industry.
So, my beloved English language is so misused as to be useless. 😦
Those who say, Oh, you wouldn’t believe, even if someone presented proof. are being disingenuous. They are admitting that they don’t have convincing evidence. I know a secret, but if I told you, I’d have to kill you. It’s a good excuse to never have to present a verifiable, falsifiable argument.
If the God that so many of them claim to believe in actually exists, He would know exactly what it would take to convince me of His existence. The fact that He has never done so, either means that He doesn’t exist, or doesn’t care if I believe. Do unto me, as your God has done unto me. Go away, leave me and other non-believers alone, take a pill, and dial back the anxiety. If I’m wrong, it won’t be the reason you don’t go to Heaven. 😦